Alice Mary Potten 1873-?
Alice Mary POTTEN is the mother of my great grandmother Etta Dorcas VIDLER, who was born Etta Dorcas VIDLER is my great grandmother. She was born in Ticehurst, Sussex on 12 April 18961. She is the daughter of Richard Joseph VIDLER and Alice Mary POTTEN. Alice Mary POTTEN was married to Richard Joseph VIDLER.
| When and Where Born | Name | Sex | Name and Surname of Father | Name, Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother | Occupation of Father | Informant | When Registered |
| 12 April 1896. Mabbs Hill, Ticehurst | Etta Dorcas | Girl | Richard Joseph VIDLER | Alice Mary VIDLER formerly POTTEN | General labourer | Alice Mary VIDLER. Mother. Mabbs Hill, Ticehurst | 26 May 1896 |
Birth
Alice Mary POTTEN was born on 03 May 1873 at The Wheel Inn, Burwash, Sussex2. Her parents are Henry POTTEN and Mary Ann RUSSELL.
| When and Where Born | Name | Sex | Name and Surname of Father | Name, Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother | Occupation of Father | Informant | When Registered |
| 03 May 1873. Wheel, Burwash | Alice Mary | Girl | Henry POTTEN | Mary Ann POTTEN late CURTIS formerly RUSSELL | Farm labourer | Mary Ann POTTEN. Mother. Wheel, Burwash | 09 June 1873 |
1881 Census
In 1881 Alice Mary POTTEN was living in Icklesham, Sussex3 with her parents Henry and Mary Ann POTTEN. Alice was also living with two of her half siblings from her mother’s first marriage.
| Name and Surname | Relation to Head | Condition | Age | Rank, Profession or Occupation | Where Born |
| Henry POTTEN | Head | Married | 45 | Agricultural labourer | Burwash, Sussex |
| Mary A POTTEN | Wife | Married | 48 | Burwash, Sussex | |
| Henry W POTTEN | Son | Unmarried | 12 | Agricultural labourer | Burwash, Sussex |
| Cicely B POTTEN | Daur | 10 | Scholar | Burwash, Sussex | |
| Alice M POTTEN | Daur | 4 | Scholar | Fordcombe, Kent | |
| Carey A CURTISS | Step daur | Unmarried | 22 | Caple, Kent | |
| George J CURTISS | Step son | Unmarried | 16 | Agricultural labourer | Burwash, Sussex |
Marriage
Richard VIDLER and Alice Mary POTTEN were married at St Peter’s Church, Ardingly, Sussex on 09 November 18914. Alice Mary POTTEN’s father was Henry POTTEN, a milkman.
| When Married | Name and Surname | Age | Condition | Rank or Profession | Residence | Father’s Name and Surname | Rank or Profession of Father |
| 09 November 1891 | Richard VIDLER | 25 | Bachelor | Labourer | Ardingly | George VIDLER (deceased) | Farmer |
| Alice Mary POTTEN | 20 | Spinster | Ardingly | Henry POTTEN | Milkman |
1901 Census
In 1901 Richard and Mary VIDLER were living at the Sportsman Inn, West Malling, Kent5, where Richard VIDLER worked as a publican. They were living there with 4 of their children: Agnes, Etta, Eric and John.
| Name and Surname | Relation to Head | Condition as to Marriage | Age | Profession or Occupation | Where Born |
| Richard VIDLER | Head | Married | 35 | Publican | Burwash, Sussex |
| Mary VIDLER | Wife | Married | 28 | Wadhurst, Sussex | |
| Agnes VIDLER | Daur. | Single | 6 | Wadhurst, Sussex | |
| Etta VIDLER | Daur. | Single | 4 | Wadhurst, Sussex | |
| Eric VIDLER | Son | Single | 3 | Wadhurst, Sussex | |
| John VIDLER | Son | Single | 1 | Wadhurst, Sussex | |
| Laura CURTIS | Servant | Single | 20 | Barmaid | Burwash, Sussex |
Further Information
Alice Mary POTTEN (VIDLER) did not appear on the 1911 Census in the household in Stonegate, Sussex with her husband and children6, although Richard Joseph VIDLER didn’t say he was a widower at that time. Richard Joseph VIDLER died on 26 April 19167 so it is possible that Alice Mary POTTEN (VIDLER) remarried, but again I have not found any records to confirm this. Some trees on Ancestry believed that it is the death registered with the GRO in March 1916, but the details for that death registration are:
14 March 1916. The Laurels, Ballack Road, Bexhill. Alice Mary VIDLER. Female. 43 years. Spinster daughter of Henry VIDLER (deceased) a fine art dealer. Acute lobar pneumonia. H. M VIDLER, brother. In attendance. 135 London Road, St Leonards on sea.
Deaths Index (CR) England. RD Battle, [Sussex]. 1st Q., 1916. VIDLER, Alice Mary. Vol. 2b. p. 80. Age at death: 43. http://www.freebmd.org.uk : accessed 03 April 2022.
I have searched the 1939 register for Alice VIDLER with her date of birth (03 May 1873) and there were no results, so I believe that either she died or remarried before 1939.
Family Members:
| Husband: | Richard Joseph VIDLER 1866-1916 |
| Daughter (Direct Ancestor): | Etta Dorcas VIDLER 1896-1968 |
| Father: | Henry POTTEN 1837-1898 |
| Mother: | Mary Anne RUSSELL 1835-1895 |
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Sources:
- Births (CR) England. Ticehurst, Sussex. 12 April 1896. VIDLER, Etta Dorcas. Entry No. 195.
- Births (CR). England. Burwash, Sussex. 03 Mary 1873. POTTEN, Alice Mary. Entry No. 94.
- Census Records. England. Rye, Sussex. 03 April 1881. POTTEN, Henry (head). PN 1020. FN 51. p. 17. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 18 November 2020.
- Marriages (CR) England. Ardingly, Sussex. 09 November 1891. VIDLER, Richard and POTTEN, Alice Mary. Entry no. 274.
- Census Records. England. West Malling, Kent. 01 April 1901. VIDLER, Richard Joseph (head). ED 16. PN 743. FN 70. p. 28. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 30 July 2021.
- Census Records. England. Stonegate, Sussex. 02 April 1911. VIDLER, Richard (head). RD 73. ED 17. PN 4903. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 02 August 2021.
- Deaths (CR) England. Ticehurst, Sussex. 26 April 1916. VIDLER, Richard Joseph. Entry no. 40.
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