Alice Mary Potten 1873-?

Alice Mary POTTEN is the mother of my great grandmother Etta Dorcas VIDLER, who was born Etta Dorcas VIDLER is my great grandmother. She was born in Ticehurst, Sussex on 12 April 18961. She is the daughter of Richard Joseph VIDLER and Alice Mary POTTEN. Alice Mary POTTEN was married to Richard Joseph VIDLER.

When and Where BornNameSexName and Surname of FatherName, Surname and Maiden Surname of MotherOccupation of FatherInformantWhen Registered
12 April 1896. Mabbs Hill, TicehurstEtta DorcasGirlRichard Joseph VIDLERAlice Mary VIDLER formerly POTTENGeneral labourerAlice Mary VIDLER. Mother. Mabbs Hill, Ticehurst26 May 1896

Birth

Alice Mary POTTEN was born on 03 May 1873 at The Wheel Inn, Burwash, Sussex2. Her parents are Henry POTTEN and Mary Ann RUSSELL.

When and Where BornNameSexName and Surname of FatherName, Surname and Maiden Surname of MotherOccupation of FatherInformantWhen Registered
03 May 1873. Wheel, BurwashAlice MaryGirlHenry POTTENMary Ann POTTEN late CURTIS formerly RUSSELLFarm labourerMary Ann POTTEN. Mother. Wheel, Burwash09 June 1873

1881 Census

In 1881 Alice Mary POTTEN was living in Icklesham, Sussex3 with her parents Henry and Mary Ann POTTEN. Alice was also living with two of her half siblings from her mother’s first marriage.

Name and SurnameRelation to HeadConditionAgeRank, Profession or OccupationWhere Born
Henry POTTENHeadMarried45Agricultural labourerBurwash, Sussex
Mary A POTTENWifeMarried48Burwash, Sussex
Henry W POTTENSonUnmarried12Agricultural labourerBurwash, Sussex
Cicely B POTTENDaur10ScholarBurwash, Sussex
Alice M POTTENDaur4ScholarFordcombe, Kent
Carey A CURTISSStep daurUnmarried22Caple, Kent
George J CURTISSStep sonUnmarried16Agricultural labourerBurwash, Sussex

Marriage

Richard VIDLER and Alice Mary POTTEN were married at St Peter’s Church, Ardingly, Sussex on 09 November 18914. Alice Mary POTTEN’s father was Henry POTTEN, a milkman.

When MarriedName and SurnameAgeConditionRank or ProfessionResidenceFather’s Name and SurnameRank or Profession of Father
09 November 1891Richard VIDLER25BachelorLabourerArdinglyGeorge VIDLER (deceased)Farmer
Alice Mary POTTEN20SpinsterArdinglyHenry POTTENMilkman
Witnesses: Obed EVEREST & Bertha EVEREST

1901 Census

In 1901 Richard and Mary VIDLER were living at the Sportsman Inn, West Malling, Kent5, where Richard VIDLER worked as a publican. They were living there with 4 of their children: Agnes, Etta, Eric and John.

Name and SurnameRelation to HeadCondition as to MarriageAgeProfession or OccupationWhere Born
Richard VIDLERHeadMarried35PublicanBurwash, Sussex
Mary VIDLERWifeMarried28Wadhurst, Sussex
Agnes VIDLERDaur.Single6Wadhurst, Sussex
Etta VIDLERDaur.Single4Wadhurst, Sussex
Eric VIDLERSonSingle3Wadhurst, Sussex
John VIDLERSonSingle1Wadhurst, Sussex
Laura CURTISServantSingle20BarmaidBurwash, Sussex

Further Information

Alice Mary POTTEN (VIDLER) did not appear on the 1911 Census in the household in Stonegate, Sussex with her husband and children6, although Richard Joseph VIDLER didn’t say he was a widower at that time. Richard Joseph VIDLER died on 26 April 19167 so it is possible that Alice Mary POTTEN (VIDLER) remarried, but again I have not found any records to confirm this. Some trees on Ancestry believed that it is the death registered with the GRO in March 1916, but the details for that death registration are:

14 March 1916. The Laurels, Ballack Road, Bexhill. Alice Mary VIDLER. Female. 43 years. Spinster daughter of Henry VIDLER (deceased) a fine art dealer. Acute lobar pneumonia. H. M VIDLER, brother. In attendance. 135 London Road, St Leonards on sea.

Deaths Index (CR) England. RD Battle, [Sussex]. 1st Q., 1916. VIDLER, Alice Mary. Vol. 2b. p. 80. Age at death: 43. http://www.freebmd.org.uk : accessed 03 April 2022.

I have searched the 1939 register for Alice VIDLER with her date of birth (03 May 1873) and there were no results, so I believe that either she died or remarried before 1939.

Family Members:

Husband:Richard Joseph VIDLER 1866-1916
Daughter (Direct Ancestor):Etta Dorcas VIDLER 1896-1968
Father:Henry POTTEN 1837-1898
Mother:Mary Anne RUSSELL 1835-1895

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Sources:

  1. Births (CR) England. Ticehurst, Sussex. 12 April 1896. VIDLER, Etta Dorcas. Entry No. 195.
  2. Births (CR). England. Burwash, Sussex. 03 Mary 1873. POTTEN, Alice Mary. Entry No. 94.
  3. Census Records. England. Rye, Sussex. 03 April 1881. POTTEN, Henry (head). PN 1020. FN 51. p. 17. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 18 November 2020.
  4. Marriages (CR) England. Ardingly, Sussex. 09 November 1891. VIDLER, Richard and POTTEN, Alice Mary. Entry no. 274.
  5. Census Records. England. West Malling, Kent. 01 April 1901. VIDLER, Richard Joseph (head). ED 16. PN 743. FN 70. p. 28. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 30 July 2021.
  6. Census Records. England. Stonegate, Sussex. 02 April 1911. VIDLER, Richard (head). RD 73. ED 17. PN 4903. http://www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 02 August 2021.
  7. Deaths (CR) England. Ticehurst, Sussex. 26 April 1916. VIDLER, Richard Joseph. Entry no. 40.

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